Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
- LVS anticipates exceptional growth at Marina Bay Sands (MBS) due to significant investments that are yielding strong returns across gaming and non-gaming segments, positioning MBS for continued future growth.
- The Londoner in Macau is expected to deliver high returns by attracting all market segments, with new premium mass capacity and room inventory coming online, enhancing its competitive position and driving future profitability.
- LVS is demonstrating strong confidence in Macau's future growth by continuing to invest heavily in the market and increasing its equity stake in Sands China, aligning shareholder interests and anticipating market growth.
- Decline in Retail Sales and Turnover Rent at the Four Seasons Mall in Macau: There has been a noticeable drop in retail sales at the Four Seasons mall, leading to lower turnover rent. Grant Chum stated that retail sales were down against the prior year due to a softening macro environment, impacting non-gaming revenues.
- Softening Base Mass Gaming Revenue at the Venetian Macau: Mass gaming volumes at the Venetian Macau have slowed, with base mass particularly affected during the quarter. Patrick Dumont noted that base mass was impacted, especially in the second half of the quarter, which may raise concerns about the recovery amid macroeconomic uncertainties in China.
- Potential Negative Impact of iGaming Legalization in Key Markets: The possibility of iGaming being legalized in New York could dilute the value of land-based gaming operations. Robert Goldstein acknowledged concerns that the introduction of iGaming and sports betting might negatively affect returns on investment in land-based casinos in markets like New York.
Metric | YoY Change | Reason |
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Total Revenue ($2,896M) | -1% YoY | Primarily driven by lower Macao revenues (down 5% YoY) due to ongoing renovations and slower recovery, partially offset by +7% growth at Marina Bay Sands. |
Casino Revenue ($2,104M) | Flat YoY | Moderate recovery in Macao gaming volumes was offset by low hold on rolling play at Marina Bay Sands, resulting in an overall flat performance. |
Mall Revenue ($218M) | -6% YoY | Attributable to lower overage rents in both Macao and Singapore, partly balanced by higher base rents. |
Convention, Retail & Other ($1M) | -99% YoY | Reflects the absence of one-time insurance recoveries seen in the prior period and reduced ferry/other revenues, sharply lowering this segment's total. |
Macao Operations ($1,771M) | -5% YoY | Renovation disruptions (especially at The Londoner) and slower visitation growth versus the prior period outweighed steady mass-market recovery and rising premium play. |
Marina Bay Sands ($1,137M) | +7% YoY | Elevated visitation, high ADR, and new upgraded amenities helped drive growth, though low rolling-play hold partially curbed the upside. |
Operating Income ($590M) | >700% YoY | Driven by a swing from negative EBIT last year to strongly positive, reflecting cost management and improved performance as borders re-opened. |
Net Income ($324M) | -31% YoY | Mainly impacted by lower consolidated revenue and higher expenses, constraints from renovation work, and poor hold percentages, overshadowing improved travel trends. |
Diluted EPS ($0.45) | -12% YoY | Reduced net income outweighed the effect of fewer shares outstanding (share repurchases), resulting in a net decline in EPS. |
Metric | Period | Previous Guidance | Current Guidance | Change |
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Macau GGR | FY 2025 | exceed $30B | exceed $30B | no change |
Annual Dividend | FY 2025 | $1 per share | $1 per share | no change |
Topic | Previous Mentions | Current Period | Trend |
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Macao expansions and the Londoner project | Renovations and room inventory closures were recurring themes, with disruptions affecting EBITDA and market share; emphasized future $1B+ annual EBITDA potential once fully open. | 20% of Cotai rooms unavailable due to final renovations; full 2,405 keys available by May 2025; margin drag expected near term but long-term optimism remains. | Continues across periods, key asset for future Macao growth. |
Ongoing investments at Marina Bay Sands (MBS) | Consistently referenced large-scale renovations and expansion (IR2 project) with ongoing room and gaming enhancements; completion by mid-2025 expected to unlock further growth. | $1.75B reinvestment nearly done, delivering $537M EBITDA; management cites strong high-value tourism and expects more upside as new products mature. | Repeated focus on upgrades, poised for higher EBITDA going forward. |
Macao base mass recovery and margin expansion | Previously noted lagging base mass relative to premium mass and renovation-related disruptions; cost discipline and visitation recovery cited as critical for margin gains. | Cited 25th anniversary events and continued soft macro as factors limiting base mass in Q4; management still sees long-term margin improvement. | Ongoing concern; shift toward macro factors vs. solely renovation disruption. |
Aggressive share repurchases | Share repurchases surfaced each quarter, with executives emphasizing value in shrinking the share base and balancing dividends with opportunistic buys. | Announced $450M of LVS stock repurchases, plus a dividend increase; also bought $250M of Sands China stock, reinforcing confidence in long-term growth. | Continues as part of capital-return strategy. |
Intense promotional competition in Macao | Previously noted as a historical characteristic of Macao, though overshadowed in prior quarters by renovation updates and margin discussion. | Executives acknowledged Macao remains highly competitive but stressed EBITDA share over pure revenue uptake; do not focus on overly aggressive promos. | Consistent mention; still a factor but not the primary focus. |
Capacity constraints at MBS | Discussed in Q3, Q2, Q1 as reduced rooms and ongoing renovations limiting full-scale operations. Expected to ease by 2025. | No direct mention of capacity constraints in Q4. | Not mentioned this quarter, possibly less of a concern now. |
Decline in retail sales at Four Seasons Mall | No prior public mention of Four Seasons Mall retail sales decline in Q3, Q2, Q1. | Year-over-year dip attributed to post-COVID spending peak in 2023 and softening macro; not a structural issue; major brand flagships still planned. | New topic in Q4; indicates potential softness in retail segment. |
Potential negative impact of iGaming legalization | First raised in Q3 (concern over dilution of physical casinos in states like NY, MI, FL); not discussed in Q2 or Q1. | Robert Goldstein noted iGaming expansion (e.g., in New York) could dilute land-based casinos; sees it as an ongoing competitive threat. | Emerging issue since Q3; cautious sentiment around market cannibalization. |
Shift from renovation disruptions to softening macro environment (Macao) | Previously focused on disruptions (Q3, Q2) from Londoner projects and baseline visitation concerns; Q1 only minor mention of macro factors. | Emphasized 25th anniversary and macro softness affecting base mass, while major renovations near completion. | Sentiment evolving from renovation-driven constraints to broader economic concerns. |
Marina Bay Sands IR2 project (high impact) | Discussed each quarter as a long-term engine for growth, with references to IR2 expansions, strong Singapore market, and high-value visitation. | Reinvestment program in final stage, due by May 2025; executives expect continued strong demand and market leadership. | Consistently high-impact project supporting sustained EBITDA lifts. |
The Londoner in Macao (high impact) | Q3, Q2, Q1 all cited The Londoner as a cornerstone of future Macao profitability, despite temporary disruptions; expansions to yield industry-leading returns. | Still experiencing margin drag from reduced room inventory; expects full key count by May 2025, aiming for $1B+ annual EBITDA once fully operational. | Steady focus on long-term potential; nearing completion of renovations. |
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Macau Recovery Outlook
Q: Will the Chinese consumer return to pre-COVID levels in Macau?
A: Management believes the Macau market remains strong, with expectations of continued growth. They note a $30 billion GGR market and are investing heavily in Macau, confident that both base mass and premium mass segments will recover. Although hard to predict exact timing, they are optimistic about the Chinese consumer returning to pre-COVID levels, citing ongoing investments and the resilience of the market. -
Capital Allocation Strategy
Q: Will you allocate more capital to Sands China shares?
A: The company sees significant value in Sands China's future and plans to acquire more SCL shares over time. They believe in SCL's growth potential and are committed to executing against their asset base, demonstrating confidence by being active in the market to own more of SCL. -
Marina Bay Sands Growth
Q: What's driving growth at Marina Bay Sands?
A: Strong market conditions and recent capital investments have led to exceptional growth at Marina Bay Sands. Non-rolling win and slot win reached $3 billion, driven by high-quality tourism and new assets coming to fruition. Management believes they are at the beginning of a huge growth surge, benefiting from a strong economy and strategic investments in high-value amenities . -
Londoner Ramp-Up and Margins
Q: How will the Londoner ramp-up affect margins?
A: The Londoner's reduced room inventory was a margin drag in Q4, but as rooms come back online—1,000 keys now available and full 2,400 expected by May—management expects significant improvement. The property's large-scale inventory will enhance competitive positioning and drive cash flow growth, leveraging the investment to generate strong returns over time . -
Thailand Market Opportunity
Q: How does Thailand compare to Singapore's market?
A: Thailand represents a distinct and attractive opportunity, separate from Singapore. With its own strong tourism base and desirable attributes, management sees potential for large-scale resorts without cannibalizing Singapore's market. They believe both markets can thrive due to Asia's large population and demand for high-quality destinations. -
New York License and iGaming Impact
Q: How will potential iGaming legalization in New York affect casino returns?
A: Management acknowledges that iGaming legalization poses a threat to land-based casino returns, potentially diluting the value of physical properties. They express concerns about the inevitability of iGaming in states with land-based casinos and are cautious about how this could impact the return profile of a potential New York casino . -
Competitive Promotions in Macau
Q: Are competitors increasing promotions ahead of the Londoner opening?
A: Management notes that Macau has always been highly competitive and promotional. They remain focused on their strategy of investing in high-quality products and service levels rather than engaging in aggressive promotions. They aim to leverage their assets to drive visitation and maintain profitability, despite any competitive promotional activity. -
Impact of New Baccarat Bets
Q: Will new Baccarat bets improve hold rates?
A: The new Baccarat bets introduced in Macau are popular and could positively impact hold rates over time. These bets are akin to parlay wagers in sports betting, offering higher house advantages. Management is hopeful that customer adoption will increase, benefiting operators focused on Baccarat, though it's still early days to assess the full impact.
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